tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post7723709876578625072..comments2023-07-03T00:46:29.189-07:00Comments on Pen On Fire / Writers on Writing: Silencing the roomBarbara DeMarco-Barretthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11407113008901754361noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-13815365576727046772008-12-23T19:32:00.000-08:002008-12-23T19:32:00.000-08:00If you silence the room in one passage or one chap...If you silence the room in one passage or one chapter, you have a short story or a poem. Novels don't happen that way, at least not good ones. It doesn't happen in a page or a few pages. It happens in the slow building, the measured revelation, the big payoff page or pages that don't seem like anything special unless you've read all that goes before it. A great novel has an emotional impact not possible in a passage or a poem. A great novel doesn't silence a room. It fills a place that was empty.<BR/><BR/>Dan Bell<BR/>jeffsnewmotorcycle.comDaniel Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11626520488419288751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-87212963876709300042008-12-23T09:31:00.000-08:002008-12-23T09:31:00.000-08:00"I hope this book is some good, but I have less an..."I hope this book is some good, but I have less and less hope of it. No time today for comment. I've got bugs under my skin. To work now."<BR/>Part of entry #60 from Working Days - Steinbeck's daily journal while writing The Grapes of Wrath.<BR/>j.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-9845016704380165222008-12-23T09:30:00.000-08:002008-12-23T09:30:00.000-08:00"I hope this book is some good, but I have less an..."I hope this book is some good, but I have less and less hope of it. No time today for comment. I've got bugs under my skin. To work now."<BR/>Part of entry #60 from Working Days - Steinbeck's daily journal while writing The Grapes of Wrath.<BR/>j.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-58792636794338842582008-12-23T07:05:00.000-08:002008-12-23T07:05:00.000-08:00Great comments, all food for thought.Maybe I need ...Great comments, all food for thought.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I need to stay put for a while, let my writing self catch up. Great story....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-79536039180104643462008-12-23T02:31:00.000-08:002008-12-23T02:31:00.000-08:00hey, Barbarawe just got a great christmas card (fr...hey, Barbara<BR/><BR/>we just got a great christmas card (from old goddard buddy Alan Mitter)<BR/><BR/>the front was a quote:<BR/><BR/>The writer Andre Gide relates this experience of a trip he took into the Belgian Congo.<BR/><BR/>My party had been pushing ahead at a fast pace for a number of days. And one morning when we were ready to set out, our native bearers, who carried the food and equipment, were found sitting about without any preparations made for starting the day.<BR/><BR/>Upon being questioned, they said, quite simply, that they had been traveling so fast in these last days that they had gotten ahead of their souls and were going to stay quietly in camp for the day in order for their souls to catch up with them<BR/><BR/>So they came to a complete stop.<BR/><BR/>the inside message simply read:<BR/><BR/>don't get ahead of yourself<BR/><BR/>do what you gotta do, forget about the room for now. I silenced a room once and I got all mad thinking everybody was just in a hurry to go to lunch. turns out they were silenced and I was hungry but who ever knows at the time.<BR/><BR/>merry christmas, thinking of you and finally learned how to listen to podcast!<BR/>love to you and yours<BR/>enjoy the snowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-65687952412541830472008-12-22T06:46:00.000-08:002008-12-22T06:46:00.000-08:00People's tastes vary tremendously, that to "silenc...People's tastes vary tremendously, that to "silence a room," you'd have to be with a bunch of people who think and like the exact same style as you do. Just look at the contest that agent Nathan Bransford had on his blog. He received over 1,500 entries of first paragraphs from writers and selected six. Many, including myself, disagreed with his selection. I even read somewhere that a critique group was formed and the writers were told to critique some work but weren't told that that author's book had already been published. They ripped it apart. So what does that say? Just my opinion. Happy holidays.Gutsy Livinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02226653890127738115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-76787192437691256712008-12-21T21:51:00.000-08:002008-12-21T21:51:00.000-08:00I agree with Cat on her last point... all her poin...I agree with Cat on her last point... all her points, really. The Judith Thurman quote is a gem. And about "silencing the room"... that sounds lovely, but for me, my goal for now is just to finish the first draft. If someone were to then say, "I like it," well, I'd be quite happy, I think! Perhaps I should aim higher, but it's daunting enough with the relatively simple goal of typing: the end.<BR/><BR/>And I do hope that after parties, snow and dwelling, you decide against shelving it.Nicole Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11113842473999943957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-24434025827037547732008-12-21T16:50:00.000-08:002008-12-21T16:50:00.000-08:00I hear what you're saying and sympathize w/your an...I hear what you're saying and sympathize w/your angst/concern. I wrestle with how one story may silence the room for some and not for others. I've rec'd great feedback on my novel only to have others say, "Why would I care about that?" I guess it's my job as the writer to make people care. I often think I'm wasting my time, but I feel so propelled by my subject matter. I'm submitting short stories right now, which takes my mind off my novel--a breather I need every so often. After the first of the year I'll be back at it, hopefully silencing the rooms of agents and publishers! ;o)Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06376258782520198445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10091286.post-35744762615192571912008-12-21T09:55:00.000-08:002008-12-21T09:55:00.000-08:00Well, my first reaction as a reader and friend is-...Well, my first reaction as a reader and friend is---NOOO! But, as a writer, I can understand the need to shelve it. The thing is, who are we to ask "who cares?" Isn't it our job to put the story down on paper and then let things drop where they may? But if you do not believe fully in what you are creating, then it's time to take a break. I very often remind myself that it is impossible to have a clear perspective on a piece of my own writing because I'm just too close to it. I'm to the point of obsessing over commas for emphasis, sentences being in the correct order, etc. When you do things like that, it's almost impossible to back up and see the big picture. <BR/><BR/>If your novel is anything like the freewrites you've done, then I say, keep going. I love the characters and the honesty of the narrator's voice. The first time I heard you freewrite a piece of fiction I was so impressed with your voice. I feel it would be quite a shame to shelve your fiction, but ultimately, you are the writer and it's up to you.<BR/><BR/>What is that you say to me? Oh yeah--JUST FINISH IT! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com